i only put it cause i knew youd take the bait.
personally i ignore people who troll me.
refiners fire
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Cornish Paganology
by Celtic init would seem that there are many who upon leaving rigid and structured religion, end up taking an interest in becoming pagan.
there are many misconceptions of just what it is that paganology stands for.. to find out more, maybe take a look at these two sites, and tour around, to see and experience, more than just a glimpse into the ancienct land, from which earth i come from.. spirit of place.
cornish language studies.
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"WHO REALLY IS THE FAITHFUL SLAVE"?
by Bill Parker inthe bible!
the things that are will be brought to nothing.
is that really the way jehovah teaches today?
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I notice there that you quote the Scriptures and put insertions into the passage in brackets. Very naughty of you. Foisting your own interpretation into actual scripture.
Reminds me of Norman Robertson.
Heres a quote from his book "End Time Prophecy" complete with scripture inserts:"Ezekial 38 v 1-3 Son of man,set your face against Gog (Russian Premiere Gorbachev),of the land of Magog (USSR)the prince of Rosh
(Mikhail Gorbachev,Russias leader)"....etc...Gotta watch that one Bill.
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Cornish Paganology
by Celtic init would seem that there are many who upon leaving rigid and structured religion, end up taking an interest in becoming pagan.
there are many misconceptions of just what it is that paganology stands for.. to find out more, maybe take a look at these two sites, and tour around, to see and experience, more than just a glimpse into the ancienct land, from which earth i come from.. spirit of place.
cornish language studies.
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Theres nothin in Cornwall but old rocks. Fallen down old rocks.
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dumbing down made us witnesses
by sleepy ini've almost forgotten why i thought jw's were the truth.. there i was thinking about it as i drove in my car yesterday trying to remember why.but i couldn't.. prehaps its because there was not one reason but a hole host of things that seamed to fit at the time.. i cannot remember a point when i started to doubt, but i did read a lot of scientific books which helped tune my brain a little bit.. i also noted that the maganzines (w&a) were very small a had very little content i found this very strange as i noted that science writers went to great pains to prove a point where as the societiy seemed happy with a few lines and a quick conclusion.but the society expected people lives to depend on its information.. but i wanted to know why i believed to avoid making the same mistake twice.. so after consideration i've come to the conclusion i was under the influence of misinformation by the society and had asumed these people knew what they were talking about and were unbaised and always checked their facts.. now i know better and will make a goal to always research myself to a higer than "normal " level before i except unusual things as true.. so i belive i was a witness due to misinformation , but this problem effect us all in many ways, how do we know we are being well informed when we read something?.
well there is a majour problem in the fact that a lot of people find reading boring , we enjoy being entertianed and to learn can be hard.
i have had to force myself to read things i didn't enjoy in order to understand something important.i am glad after that i have done it ,but i didnt enjoy it.. yes people read little and prefear it when everthing is given to them on a plate.. i belive that lack of education and a lack of a critical mind coupled with the dumbing down of society in general will lead people into religious traps and pseudoscientific errors.. we must encourage education and the desire to learn in our children.. the dumbing down i see in society worries me.
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deadthreadfred.
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prophet/prophetlike/interpreter.
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What's your spiritual type?
by RR inhere's a test.
http://www.beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionid=&surveyid=27/.
questioning believer you have doubts about the particulars but not the big stuff.
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okay..okay..sheesh!..
Alright...I done the damn thing. Longest quiz in history and keeps askin the same questions over and over ....anyway....
Says Im an "Old fashioned seeker, happy with my religion".
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What's your spiritual type?
by RR inhere's a test.
http://www.beliefnet.com/section/quiz/index.asp?sectionid=&surveyid=27/.
questioning believer you have doubts about the particulars but not the big stuff.
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refiners fire
Hey brother!
It doesnt highlight so I can click straight to it.
You expect ME to type ALL that myself?
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The REAL state of the world (long)
by cynicus inthe great fable of the litany .
we have been told for a long time the story of the litany, that doomsday is nigh.
lester brown and an entire army of environmental organizations, pundits and politicians have warned us of the impending debacle.
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Anybody read "Sign of the last days-When?" by Carl Olof Jonnson.
(A jehovahs apostate)
A real eye opener regarding the spread of pestilence in the world.
The world population didnt reach 1 billion till about 1850 or something and the reason was Pestilence. Used to wipe out 25 percent of the world population every 30 years or so.
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dumbing down made us witnesses
by sleepy ini've almost forgotten why i thought jw's were the truth.. there i was thinking about it as i drove in my car yesterday trying to remember why.but i couldn't.. prehaps its because there was not one reason but a hole host of things that seamed to fit at the time.. i cannot remember a point when i started to doubt, but i did read a lot of scientific books which helped tune my brain a little bit.. i also noted that the maganzines (w&a) were very small a had very little content i found this very strange as i noted that science writers went to great pains to prove a point where as the societiy seemed happy with a few lines and a quick conclusion.but the society expected people lives to depend on its information.. but i wanted to know why i believed to avoid making the same mistake twice.. so after consideration i've come to the conclusion i was under the influence of misinformation by the society and had asumed these people knew what they were talking about and were unbaised and always checked their facts.. now i know better and will make a goal to always research myself to a higer than "normal " level before i except unusual things as true.. so i belive i was a witness due to misinformation , but this problem effect us all in many ways, how do we know we are being well informed when we read something?.
well there is a majour problem in the fact that a lot of people find reading boring , we enjoy being entertianed and to learn can be hard.
i have had to force myself to read things i didn't enjoy in order to understand something important.i am glad after that i have done it ,but i didnt enjoy it.. yes people read little and prefear it when everthing is given to them on a plate.. i belive that lack of education and a lack of a critical mind coupled with the dumbing down of society in general will lead people into religious traps and pseudoscientific errors.. we must encourage education and the desire to learn in our children.. the dumbing down i see in society worries me.
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I recall, now that you mention it, picturing Bethel, when I was a young lad and seeing a hive of activity. everyone busstling about, very clean hands, shirts,combed hair, busy but not sweating, all joyous, and upstairs the "research department" with dozens of committed, truth seeking brothers sat at their desks swotting away to make sure not one DRIB off false, slanted information got into society pubs.
I mean, the brothers were so EARNEST. How could it be possible that Headquaters was no less than 10 times as earnest as the average brother?It couldnt be.
How could it be possible they would lie?? Inconcievable.
So loving, so honest, no..lies were impossible.
Then one day you see them with your own eyes.
First thing you think is that the book publishing the expose is full of lies, or might be, so you look for original source material.
Real life Watchtower publications. Then you read them, you behold.
Horror upon horror, lies and lies and half truths and....
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Sorry brother U-NO! I read the false prophets reasoning in half a dozen apostate books before I ever heard of Ray Franz.
The only reason Raymond "popularized" it among ex dubs is because he covered the subject more extensively in "Crisis"than had been done before. It does get tiresome hearing more False Prophet reasoning on this board though, i admit.
First time I ever tried the false prophecy reasoning on a committed Jehovahs I was very disappointed,nothing will open the mind of the committed,only the waverers are affected by it.
Its interesting to notice that our Lords Matthew 24 prophecy mentions the pervasiveness of false prophecy some 3 (4?)times, whereas earthquakes are only mentioned once.